I struggle with the
definition, because in my view every non-profit is a social enterprise. The tax
label of an enterprise, whether it’s for-profit or non-profit, all it really is
a tax label.
Is it just
terminology? Or do you see clear distinctions between non-profits and social
enterprises?
It’s a great question.
Firstly, I don’t. The non-profit label in my mind is simply a label that denotes
the tax system, the IRS enterprise. The word social enterprise, however, in my
mind is defined differently. It’s an enterprise that is focused on building the
social good, the common good. It could be for-profit, it could be non-profit, it
could be a cooperative.
None of us would argue that
the Amul cooperative (India’s famous butter brand), which is by all recognition
the world’s largest dairy enterprise – it’s larger than any for-profit dairy
company on the planet – is a social enterprise. Who would argue with that
definition? And if you agree with that, well then let’s examine the definition
of social enterprise, and what is not a non-profit, is not a for-profit. I
deliberately chose that because it’s a cooperative – it’s more of a social
enterprise than TOMS shoes. It’s owned by the farmers – so how much more social
are you gonna get?
But it’s not small, it’s the
world’s largest dairy organization for crying out loud. So your definitions
start to fritter away under the force of logic. I think we’re limiting
ourselves, in defining social enterprise in the current way, we actually limit
ourselves in what the social sector can do for a community. But we could talk
more about this. My views might not find agreement, but I’m not looking for
that.
You’ve worked on the
ONE Campaign and World Vision – both organizations that rely heavily on
fundraising. What are the lessons that you’ve learned, having done this for
many years? Because in the non-profit space, I keep hearing that we’re now
reaching a point of saturation, people are becoming apathetic, they’re being
bombarded from everywhere. So how do you raise money? Do you get more creative,
or do you target a certain audience?
I deliberately changed the
word from fundraising to donor-engagement. “Donor-engagement” I dreamt up one
morning, at home getting ready to go to work. It came out of a realization and
it was pretty simple: it’s to get people excited and engaged in my cause. As a
result, funds come.
But I’m not focusing on the
money, what I need to focus on is engaging and exciting them, so really what a
good fundraiser needs to do is to be an expert in engaging and exciting a
constituency of potential and current donors.
There’s no recipe, but I do
believe that to be successful at engaging donors frankly what is needed is a
transformative change within the non-profit industry of how does the non-profit
industry look at itself. Forget about trying to look at the donors – they are
who they are.
We are a generous country and
there are tens of millions of us in America and frankly increasingly now tens of
millions of people around the world – the Chinese are generous, the Indians are
generous, the Brazilians, the Chileans, the South Africans.
Fundamentally when a
non-profit starts to think, well, my job is actually two-sided: my job, my
mission is on the one side to change the life of the beneficiary, so I’m
changing lives; on the other side, I’m changing hearts. When the non-profit
starts to think of itself as a bridge and a connector between the donor on the
one side and the beneficiary and the cause on the other, well you suddenly find
yourself not in the role of an activist – you’ll find yourself in the role of a
bridge-builder.
Essentially that’s what they
are: they are bridges between donors and the cause and the beneficiary; and they
have to get effective at building the bridge on both sides and in
between.
So long you keep looking at
the donor as simply a cash machine, which is what the word fundraiser denotes to
me, you are going to run into all the problems that you just spoke
about. And there’s only incremental advance that can be made to improving
techniques.
People say, okay guys, you
tripled the revenue at World Vision, well there’s complex reasons but I do
believe that the starting point was the organization’s self-realization that
they had a two-sided job, and they actually changed the mission statement to
reflect it.
It’s a long answer, but I’m
very passionate about it. I think we are focused on the wrong thing – on
changing the tactics. We have to get focused on the right thing, which is
changing ourselves, within in the non-profit industry.
It’s probably going to happen
more in new frameworks that are being established in countries like India,
China, Brazil, because they don’t have our legacy.
Which organizations do
you feel are going down this road and making progress?
Everybody points it out, but I
think Charity: Water does a very good job of doing this. Kiva, with Premal Shah,
they do a very good job at constantly engaging. Clearly I came from them, but I
do think that World Vision does a good job at continuously improving that
interaction. It’s a long journey, regardless.
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